Comments for WoW Contender http://www.wowcontender.com/blog World of Warcraft blog Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:14:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 Comment on Combat rogue PVE build and rotation – patch 3.3.3 by Skorne http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/pve/combat-rogue-pve-build-and-rotation-patch-3-3-3/comment-page-2/#comment-1376 Skorne Thu, 02 Sep 2010 09:14:46 +0000 http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/?p=754#comment-1376 Hi John, Check out this <a href="http://pverogues.blogspot.com/2010/08/new-further-information-on-rupture-335.html" rel="nofollow">post</a> about rupture vs ruptureless rotations. It was obtained from Aldriana at Elitist Jerks and goes in more detail about what I mentioned in my previous post. Either way, I say if it works for you then stick with it, and your rupture build obviously works well for you. My ruptureless build works well for me. I sit on 11-11.5K throughout ICC25 and pull over 12.5K on Saurfang and Fester at the moment. Would be great for you to post a link to your armory for other eager rupture rogues to see :) Hi John,
Check out this post about rupture vs ruptureless rotations. It was obtained from Aldriana at Elitist Jerks and goes in more detail about what I mentioned in my previous post. Either way, I say if it works for you then stick with it, and your rupture build obviously works well for you. My ruptureless build works well for me. I sit on 11-11.5K throughout ICC25 and pull over 12.5K on Saurfang and Fester at the moment. Would be great for you to post a link to your armory for other eager rupture rogues to see :)

]]> Comment on Combat rogue PVE build and rotation – patch 3.3.3 by John http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/pve/combat-rogue-pve-build-and-rotation-patch-3-3-3/comment-page-2/#comment-1366 John Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:32:10 +0000 http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/?p=754#comment-1366 -On my note : Sorry to not mention this in my last post but EVIS was mainly to use pvp in because of the burst dmg and to not have a dot on your target so you can use other abilites such as blind. I use Crippling and Wound Poison for pvp that way i can get in a cycle of cheap shot kidney shot and maybe killing spree ftw cause it is rape sauce in pvp -On my note : Sorry to not mention this in my last post but EVIS was mainly to use pvp in because of the burst dmg and to not have a dot on your target so you can use other abilites such as blind. I use Crippling and Wound Poison for pvp that way i can get in a cycle of cheap shot kidney shot and maybe killing spree ftw cause it is rape sauce in pvp

]]> Comment on Combat rogue PVE build and rotation – patch 3.3.3 by John http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/pve/combat-rogue-pve-build-and-rotation-patch-3-3-3/comment-page-2/#comment-1365 John Thu, 02 Sep 2010 03:28:02 +0000 http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/?p=754#comment-1365 Using Rupture actually lowers your DPS but increases your damage done overall, because as switching occurs dmg is still being done but your dps is being lower because of lost white attacks and yellows on top of the stacking DoT which gives your more dmg then a evis spec since you stop dps all together to switch. However as combat switching doesnt really hurt us because with ks its easy to switch. With slow weapons at 2.6 and a gearscore of 5400 im pulling over 8k dps compared to other combat rogues using your cycle at 6.5k (same gs) and they follow the simple guideline of SnD before everything else. After raids i do get asked how i do more damage them and i just simply tell them my rotation. Dont get me wrong or anything you can get away with evis but just saying your not putting out the true potential of the combat spec Using Rupture actually lowers your DPS but increases your damage done overall, because as switching occurs dmg is still being done but your dps is being lower because of lost white attacks and yellows on top of the stacking DoT which gives your more dmg then a evis spec since you stop dps all together to switch. However as combat switching doesnt really hurt us because with ks its easy to switch. With slow weapons at 2.6 and a gearscore of 5400 im pulling over 8k dps compared to other combat rogues using your cycle at 6.5k (same gs) and they follow the simple guideline of SnD before everything else. After raids i do get asked how i do more damage them and i just simply tell them my rotation. Dont get me wrong or anything you can get away with evis but just saying your not putting out the true potential of the combat spec

]]> Comment on Combat rogue PVE build and rotation – patch 3.3.3 by Skorne http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/pve/combat-rogue-pve-build-and-rotation-patch-3-3-3/comment-page-2/#comment-1358 Skorne Wed, 01 Sep 2010 08:15:45 +0000 http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/?p=754#comment-1358 Hi John, The rotation I use and wrote about is a ruptureless rotation. However combat builds built around rupture can be quite effective if played well and are said to out dps ruptureless rotations by a small amount against tank n spank bosses such as Saurfang or Festergut but are weaker on fights with heavy swapping such as Putricide and Deathwhisper. Hi John,
The rotation I use and wrote about is a ruptureless rotation. However combat builds built around rupture can be quite effective if played well and are said to out dps ruptureless rotations by a small amount against tank n spank bosses such as Saurfang or Festergut but are weaker on fights with heavy swapping such as Putricide and Deathwhisper.

]]> Comment on Combat rogue PVE build and rotation – patch 3.3.3 by John http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/pve/combat-rogue-pve-build-and-rotation-patch-3-3-3/comment-page-2/#comment-1349 John Mon, 30 Aug 2010 23:11:22 +0000 http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/?p=754#comment-1349 This rotation is alright but my rotation would to be this : SS Snd SS till 5 combo Rupture SnD If rupture procs a combo point if not ss then snd build to 5 and then evis Depending on the cycle and SS Glyph i can usually get a evis with rupture with plenty of time sitting on it. I think just eviscerating is a waste of time and that rupture is more dps over it This rotation is alright but my rotation would to be this :

SS
Snd
SS till 5 combo
Rupture
SnD If rupture procs a combo point if not ss then snd
build to 5 and then evis

Depending on the cycle and SS Glyph i can usually get a evis with rupture with plenty of time sitting on it. I think just eviscerating is a waste of time and that rupture is more dps over it

]]> Comment on Combat rogue PVE build and rotation – patch 3.3.3 by bargo http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/pve/combat-rogue-pve-build-and-rotation-patch-3-3-3/comment-page-2/#comment-1339 bargo Sat, 28 Aug 2010 17:30:50 +0000 http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/?p=754#comment-1339 exlent post exlent post

]]> Comment on Combat rogue PVE build and rotation – patch 3.3.3 by Skorne http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/pve/combat-rogue-pve-build-and-rotation-patch-3-3-3/comment-page-2/#comment-1291 Skorne Mon, 23 Aug 2010 08:06:54 +0000 http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/?p=754#comment-1291 Jugans, as I said before I believe that your priority is to keep SnD up before using Eviscerate no matter how many combo points you currently have. I will try and make a video of my rotation on a tank and spank boss soon for those that are interested in what I do. Jugans, as I said before I believe that your priority is to keep SnD up before using Eviscerate no matter how many combo points you currently have. I will try and make a video of my rotation on a tank and spank boss soon for those that are interested in what I do.

]]> Comment on Combat rogue PVE build and rotation – patch 3.3.3 by Jugans http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/pve/combat-rogue-pve-build-and-rotation-patch-3-3-3/comment-page-2/#comment-1286 Jugans Mon, 23 Aug 2010 03:57:25 +0000 http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/?p=754#comment-1286 i mean i finish the LK fight with 11 k dps :D around 12 k in saurfang 10 men ... i mean i finish the LK fight with 11 k dps :D
around 12 k in saurfang 10 men …

]]> Comment on Combat rogue PVE build and rotation – patch 3.3.3 by Jugans http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/pve/combat-rogue-pve-build-and-rotation-patch-3-3-3/comment-page-2/#comment-1285 Jugans Mon, 23 Aug 2010 02:53:37 +0000 http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/?p=754#comment-1285 i have the right talents im not noob :D 100 % sure i can put 11 k dps on LK fight 10 men .. with 30 % buff ... with 5922 gs .. but i just have taht question i dunno ... if is more effective to do 1 Cp SnD then get 5 CP eviscerate or get 5 cp for SnD and then get like 2-3 eviscerates with 5 CP ... cuz 1 CP in SnD = waste 15 energy really dunno :S bhaaa i have the right talents im not noob :D 100 % sure i can put 11 k dps on LK fight 10 men .. with 30 % buff … with 5922 gs ..
but i just have taht question i dunno … if is more effective to do 1 Cp SnD then get 5 CP eviscerate or get 5 cp for SnD and then get like 2-3 eviscerates with 5 CP … cuz 1 CP in SnD = waste 15 energy really dunno :S bhaaa

]]> Comment on Combat rogue PVE build and rotation – patch 3.3.3 by Skorne http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/pve/combat-rogue-pve-build-and-rotation-patch-3-3-3/comment-page-2/#comment-1283 Skorne Mon, 23 Aug 2010 01:21:12 +0000 http://www.wowcontender.com/blog/?p=754#comment-1283 Hey Jugens, As a general rule you should always use SnD over Eviscerate if SnD is about to finish. However in saying that there are times when Eviscerate would be more effective. This is something that you need to judge for yourself when your rogue is put in certain situations. For example when I run Heroics I find that trash mobs go down very fast so renewing my SnD would be a waste if the trash is about to die. In this type of situation I would use Eviscerate over SnD. Trash mobs in ICC are different as they have much more hp and here I make sure my SnD is always up. Also make sure your combat build includes Improved Slice n Dice. Hey Jugens,
As a general rule you should always use SnD over Eviscerate if SnD is about to finish. However in saying that there are times when Eviscerate would be more effective. This is something that you need to judge for yourself when your rogue is put in certain situations. For example when I run Heroics I find that trash mobs go down very fast so renewing my SnD would be a waste if the trash is about to die. In this type of situation I would use Eviscerate over SnD. Trash mobs in ICC are different as they have much more hp and here I make sure my SnD is always up. Also make sure your combat build includes Improved Slice n Dice.

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